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    An interview with Thom Underwood

Thom welcoming PAS users to the international User Group meeting in Mexico

Thom Underwood FGA ASA is the owner of The San Diego Gemological Laboratory, a jewellery valuation practice in California and the principal of Quantum Leap Software Solutions, developers of the Professional Appraisal Software (PAS). Thom is also a senior lecturer with the American Society of Appraisers and has a degree in Chemistry. As a keen outdoor sportsman, Thom can often be found in his Kayak or climbing some fairly serious hills.

AppraiserTech caught up with Thom who kindly agreed to be interviewed.

Key: AT = AppraiserTech           TU = Thom Underwood

AT: How long have you been an Appraiser?

TU: I created my appraisal practice in 1978 in San Diego paralleling a period where I was involved in the retail and manufacturing side of our industry.

 

AT: From jewellery appraisal to software development. How did that happen?

TU: Technology back in the 1970’s was poor and the drudgery of collating the data and preparing the reports was taking a lot of the pleasure out of appraising for me. It also was taking unnecessarily long to create the finished reports.

I bought my first computer at this time and started to explore the possible ways of inputting the data and presenting it in a professional manner. At first it was a process of merging the entered data into forms. I was reasonably happy with the direction I was going but realised that better progress could be made by hiring a programmer to carry out my wishes. It was better this way. I would tell the programmer what I wanted and he would go away and figure out how to do it.

 

AT: Is this when you realised that there could be a market for this product?

TU: No, I used the application for my own work until about 1987 making fine adjustments to it as I went along. It wasn’t until I showed it to fellow appraisers that it seemed that there was a real need for this type of software.

AT: Did you release this application in its original state?

TU: The program went through several changes using different platforms including those available to Macintosh computers. The introduction of Windows in the early 1990’s allowed me to expand the application to its full capability, this involved several re-writes of the programming code.

 

AT: So where is PAS now?

TU: The software now uses a SQL Server database with a Visual Basic interface so it can accommodate a full networking environment with users in multiple offices. It can also be used over a Virtual Private Network environment.

 

AT: This all sounds very technical and difficult, a lot of valuers are not interested in technology, some even fear it!

TU: These elements are behind the scenes and operate without the users intervention. In practice the application is extremely easy to use because it is modelled on the appraisal process.

The software breaks down each part of the appraisal into components. Each component provides dropdown lists allowing the appraiser to select the details they need for each item. The user can skip non-relevant details or type in specifics unique to their report. The software uses any entered measurements to calculate gemstone weights, as well as do onscreen plotting of gemstones. All the components of the appraisal along with digital images, logos, margins and fonts are then correctly laid out in Microsoft Word at the click of a single button.

 

AT: Being Valuers and software developers ourselves, we understand how one can strengthen the other but do you find there are any areas that conflict?

TU: None at all. The software brings me into contact with Appraisers from all over the world, I am constantly gaining new insights into valuation science and how to approach it. In the course of operating my Appraisal practice, I need to keep on top of changes in the industry. As a practicing Appraiser, I am only too aware of the needs and wishes of today’s Appraisers. This, in turn, helps me to keep the features and methods in the software relevant to the individuals that will be using it.

 

AT: What is main strength of PAS

TU: Flexibility! The software is designed to be flexible so it meets the needs of every appraiser and conforms to the work styles of the people that use it. We allow the user to have total control over the finished products, which promotes creativity and individuality.

 

AT: What it is that you enjoy the most about running Quantum Leap?

TU: I encourage a real community spirit within PAS users and enjoy listening and acting on feedback and suggestions from users. It’s the people that make this fun. I describe Quantum Leap as “a community of professionals linked together by a virtual tool”

 

AT: “Virtual” is a word that you use a lot!

TU: We now live in a world where there are very few physical boundaries. For example, Quantum Leap has no office employees yet successfully supports hundreds of users worldwide. The three principals live far apart from each other. The programmer in Montana, you as a partner in Scotland and me in San Diego. We all communicate by e-mail, instant messaging and phone calls, meeting only occasionally. There will come a time in the fairly near future where offices will be merely meeting places, while the tools and information we use can be accessed from anywhere and at any time.

AT: What is currently exciting you about the PAS product?

TU: PAS has a few new exciting features that I call “external applications information interface” Basically, this means that PAS communicates with other applications for its own end. For example, external sources of value are pulled in from the Internet. Sarin users can integrate diamond measurements and proportions from the instrument directly into PAS. One area that I am particular excited about is our ability to use the GemeSquare colour grading system for coloured gemstones. A colour palette is produced on the users flat screen monitor to assess hue, tone and saturation. In fact, PAS is actually communicating with the GemeWizard host computer in Israel that houses the primary colour files…. Very exciting indeed!

 

AT: Don’t you feel that there will come a point at which you have simply developed the program as far as it can go?

TU: Well, I suppose you might of thought exactly that, several years ago. The fact is, nothing stays the same for any length of time. There are always changes in the way people work and technology is a very fluid thing. No, there is always something new and useful to look forward to.

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